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Family and friends go to extraordinary lengths to honor a legacy of a young man whose trust led to tragedy. A judge called Andrews murder a vicious crime, but did not consider Turner a risk to others. It also took 3rd place in the National Headliner Awards for Best Documentary of 2008, given by the Press Club of Atlantic City. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) (Unintelligible) Hi, sweetheart. Not too long ago? You can reach out to David Bagby-cantu via phone number 915-383-8358. Laudable ambition, difficult to achieve. But that is what the Bagbys. Mr. BAGBY: He's now engaged to this lovely girl, and he's going to go to med school. KATE: It was shocking, but not a surprise. Mr. BAGBY: That's one of the options, and that's the one we hoped for. He travelled across the country, and to England, to collect these reminiscences, which reveal Bagby to be a caring physician and a beloved and charismatic goofball. People in the audience were literally weeping during the post-screening Q&A." And in the meantime, without that crucial piece of evidence to charge her with Andrew's murder, Shirley Turner quietly left US soil and returned home to Newfoundland. They're like, `What do you mean?' MORRISON: But would that somebody turn out to be a blessing or a curse? with a supervisor, and we had to be searched. HEATHER: You are the most amazing, strongest people I've ever. The film is by the phenomenal writer, director and composer Kurt Kuenne. MORRISON: What did you think when you heard that? I was like, `Oh, OK, yeah.' I got to see what happens to the bastard who did this. How do you represent anguish of that magnitude without turning it into a Greek tragedy? MORRISON: Despite it all, the Bagbys were thrilled to be living, with Zachary. Wait, thats not true, Sophocles came up with it when he wrote Oedipus Rex about a king who unwittingly fulfills a prophecy that foretold he would kill his father and marry his mother, and then pokes out his own eyes because hes in despair and you cant outrun destiny. -. Unidentified Woman #10: (Kate holding Zachary) Zachary. We need each other, have each other to get through this.". KATE: I sat there and bit my lip and cried. 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition DigiPak: How dreadful the knowledge of the truth can be, wrote Sophocles, when theres no help in truth.. But their efforts to. Mr. BAGBY: We were out shopping or something. The Bagbys still hold a bitterness when they talk about how they were failed by a legal system that let Turner out on bail and allowed her to retain custody of Zachary. Zachary, how's our baby today? The Bagbys went to the morgue to identify their bodies. Kurt Kuenne's acclaimed orchestral score for "Dear Zachary", nominated for Best Documentary Score of 2008 by the International Film Music Critics Association, is now available on CD and for digital download. Mr. KUENNE: You know, he said--she said, `Look, I'm not looking for another husband. After Zacharys death, the Bagbys began a quest to have Canadas bail laws changed. David and Kate Bagby know all about the unlikely power of love funneled through rage. I said, `When do you think you'll be done?' After arriving home, she drove 900 miles back to Pennsylvania to kill the man who rejected her. On the 5th, however, Turner appeared back in Latrobe. "Kurt Kuenne has crafted a documentary that began as a legacy of a friend in the form of a letter to that friend's child, and that is powerful enough to endure as legend. They recorded them. The Bagbys attended the hearing, of course, and, could not quite believe their ears when they heard the judge's ruling. We were kind of like, `Well, we're not the best ones to be taking care of a child.' (Photo of Shirley, Kate and Zachary; photo of Shirley, David and Zachary; Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Well, I just want your word that I'm going to, know where he's at, like any babysitter, you know, if you're going to take him, anywhere, just say, `Shirley, we're going to run out and do this. MORRISON: What was it like to hear that she was going to get out of prison? Mr. BAGBY: By this time we're pretty damn sure she's complete. Well, you dont have to look far, said Dr. T. Clark Simpson, who worked with Bagby. Serious crime is rare in this country. Was it a tight bond? And thank God. I had a husband I loved. "There, is no indication of a psychological disorder that would give concern about, potential harm to the public generally as her crime, while violent, was, specific in nature." They watched the legal proceedings grind, infuriating and slow. kind of the only way that this little boy is going to get to know his dad. I mean, the best man is really the groom. Dear Zachary is as devastating as it is because it unravels the way bad things unravel in real life. The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Cond Nast. Newfoundlanders tend to trust each other, perhaps it's because, generally, With a skilled lawyer on hand to do Shirley Turner's bidding, the. Mr. SHEARS: Mm, yeah. he was fussy at all. Mr. SIMPSON: I said, `Do not meet her in private.' Our 100 journalists strive to inform and improve our East Coast communities by delivering impartial, high-impact, local journalism that provokes thought and action. This is the first example in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. It's great. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased. Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. Except, OK, sometimes not. David and Kate Bagby know all about the unlikely power of love funneled through rage. Andrew, despite his obvious abilities, was turned down by every medical school in the country. They had to be nice to Turner, to keep her mellow, and not fight with her. And not just because its real. Why don't you just take him?'. Andrew was found dead Nov. 5, 2001 in a state park just outside Latrobe, PA, where he was a resident in the local hospitals family medicine programme. David and Kate Bagby moved to St. John's. They forged a relationship with the woman they believed killed their son so they could see Zachary, their only grandchild. 2015 - 20153 . COLLECTOR'S EDITION DIGIPAK only from Oscilloscope Laboratories: The upbeat music stops and a little boy who speaks in that lispy slow muckle-mouthed way little boys do, asks, Why did Andrew get killed?. Kate said Shirley insisted on keeping Zachary in, the deep pool, which frustrated him because he couldn't move on his own. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Are you sure? Complicating things further, she soon announced that she was pregnant with Bagbys child. MORRISON: And ultimately she sent him away, with no forewarning. When Kuenne narrates the particulars of the crime, the evidence, or the legal proceedings, his voiceover shifts to a stylized, rapid-fire clip, making it easy for the audience to miss key details. to reconsider getting some help with that. ', Mr. SHEARS: Things happen in America that don't seem to happen up here as. This abridged version was prepared personally by Kurt Kuenne in order to comply with CBC Newsworld's time constraints but preserve the film's impact while reaching a wider audience in Canada. On Nov. 5, Kate, who is originally from England, pictures Turner sitting on top of a Guy Fawkes bonfire and her family all around it with fireworks. Cpl. Man #26: and for having the strength to make it through, Unidentified Man #27: With what you've been through, to still be, carrying on, still to hold your heads up and keep going and pushing forward is, (Kate and David; photo of David and Kate), Unidentified Woman #13: I think God put some people down on Earth, Mr. A. BAGBY: (Wedding video) We're brothers, and I love you. Blu-ray | DVD, 10th Anniversary Edition: But you will come away believing in people. MORRISON: The rage was tempered with a yearning to know just why Andrew had been assassinated. David remembers uttering, "It's really him," and recalls how the two cried over the body, tears falling on to Andrew's face. Only Kate and David, MORRISON: Perhaps the most irksome part of the deal with Shirley. Mr. BAGBY: The baby would be half Andrew, and that, for us, was sweet. February 24, 2009: MP Andrews was inspired to create Bill C-464 after seeing Dear Zachary for the first time in March; he and Senator Tommy Banks distributed DVDs of Dear Zachary to every member of the House of Commons for their review immediately following the December 4th discussion. April 14, 2009: Zachary's life, even talking to her eldest son and his girlfriend about it. MORRISON: So different from who Andrew really was, a kind, devoted son who made Eagle Scout at 15. She was coming here to take care of me. MORRISON: And tell me about your mum with Zachary. He laughs as he recalls images of Zachary running up and down a hall, saying that is a joy. December 15, 2009: MORRISON: How did you find out what happened, how he had been killed? IE 11 is not supported. MORRISON: Even more, the Bagbys' gloom was mixed with worry. There won't be any question about, whether she can hurt him. sixteen years have passed but for the bagbys the story of the deaths of their only son and grandson resurfaces all the time. This is where the foreshadowed bureaucracy comes back. "In a tragic ending, we bring new beginnings with bail reform so that no other family will have to go through the devastation that Kate and David have gone through," Andrews said. The couple was also involved in a support group for parents of murdered children and sat through three murder trials to try and help other surviving parents deal with their incredible grief. Screening next at DocuWeek, the International Documentary Association's Theatrical Documentary Showcase. Kate and David Bagby traveled to Ottawa last week to speak as witnesses for the bill before the House's Standing Committee on Justice & Human Rights. Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. KATE: (Audio recording) Right. Shirley, held his birthday party at McDonald's. The bill is called C-464 - An Act to amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). They should have been given custody of Zachary to begin with. MORRISON: Because Zachary liked you best? Mr. SHEARS: Yeah, I guess it did at the time, but I still didn't have, MORRISON: How difficult must it have been to ingratiate, themselves with their son's suspected killer? It also recently won Best Documentary at the Orlando Film Festival and the Audience Award at the St. Louis International Film Festival. And as tragic as this story is, that is also where its consolation lies: that Shirley Jane Turner destroyed everything around her in an attempt to extinguish the love she was incapable of experiencing herself, and in the end she couldnt. Now armed with a powerful tool, "Dear Zachary: A Letter, to a Son about his Father," the tribute film Kurt Kuenne started making, first. David Bagby wrote Dance with the Devil: A Memoir of Murder and Loss, a best-seller in Canada in 2007, about his family's ordeal. American authorities asked Canadian, authorities to send her back to the US, which would require an extradition, hearing. Welcome back toCold Comforts, a recurring column in which Soraya Roberts writes about the grim, harrowing, and downright bizarre movies and television shows that she nevertheless cant stop watching, over and over again. Mr. BAGBY: What a flake. GARDNER: (Audio recording) I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. Unidentified Man #22: We will develop policy specific to children. Just like Andrew, you know, happy. You take it with you, but you move on, said David. Dear Zachary was named one of the top 5 documentaries of 2008 by the National Board of Review! Kate & David Bagby will now be called as witnesses before the committee, the bill will be revised and strengthened, and eventually brought back into the House and Senate for a vote. June 2, 2015 - June 2020. This movie is the kind of nightmare no one could dream up. If you were to dream up the perfect set of parents, it would be Kate and David Bagby. We send a huge thanks to MP Scott Andrews, his assistant Ken Carter, MP Peter Stoffer, Senator Tommy Banks, his assistant Thrse Gauthier, Gord McIntosh and all those in Parliament who have seen across party lines and supported this bill to honor Andrew & Zachary and help prevent a recurrence of our story. I just want to get through medical school.'. Instead, the films dramatic nodes are scenes such as the one in which Bagbys parents, David and Kate, recall going to identify their sons body. Kurt is incredibly grateful for the good folks at MSNBC for making this arrangement happen. Laws governing the, rights of defendants are fairly strong in this country, but there's something, about Newfoundlanders in particular which may have contributed to the judge's, decision to grant bail. I'm just looking for somebody to hang out with and have fun here in school.' MORRISON: In Kurt Kuenne's documentary, Clark Simpson, one of Andrew's close friends at the hospital, remembers that November morning just two weeks later when Shirley surprised Andrew again. Parents Kate and David Bagby's story of identifying Andrew's body is devastating. Senior Writer and Project Manager. An unusually personal and powerful story of a murder, it may offer something of a counterweight to the forces of bias and prurience that often pull the genre off-track. Andrew came to St. John's. We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. -, "A 10 out of 10. January 28, 2008: any problem at all with them spending time with him, unlike my mother, Mr. SHEARS: I guess I just thought, well, they're kind of accusing her of, murder. MORRISON: It was August 2003, the wee hours of the morning by the ocean. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, yeah. `You gave me a lovely son, and now it's over.'. They might as well have sent a taxi to her to help take him out and drown him. STORY CONTINUES BELOW THESE SALTWIRE VIDEOS. For those who've asked how Kate & David Bagby are doing now, here's a lovely article from Diane Crocker at Newfoundland's The Western Star. Its a muddled structure, and the film makes frequent aesthetic missteps as well, with frenetic editing, canned music, and heavy-handed imagery. Mr. BAGBY: The police didn't give us very much information, but they started. And I prayed to God to be looking after him. Interviews with Bagbys friends and family take the place of the usual lineup of witnessesas much attention is given to the fact that he always wore shorts as to the number of times he was shotand their pain functions as evidence as the film builds a case against the Canadian bail and extradition protocols. but if we don't get help, we don't know if we're doing what's best. would be the difference if one person weren't alive? USA | Canada | UK, Original poster artwork by Evan B. Harris, Proceeds from this film benefit the Dr. Bagby Scholarship and the Dr. Andrew Bagby and son Zachary Bursary, Watch this short film to see the quest to complete Dear Zachary and amend Canadian bail law.
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